Why only some US channels available?

[Eric Gadfsa]

Just curious...Why are only a few US Cable Networks available in
Canada? I've noticed that CNN, CNN Headline News, TBS, Spike TV, A&E,
& BET are pretty much the only ones that are imported directly into
Canada from the US, Stateside commercials and all. Why is this so,
how come you can't get FX or anything like that? On that note, I
think it's pretty stupid that my friends in Canada get more US
stations then I do...Buffalo stations and network affiliates from
Seattle...Echostar tried to get something like that, allow ppl to get
stations from outside their home area, but the FCC shot them down.

[Warren Oates]

In article <***@posting.google.com>,
***@comcast.net (Eric Gadfsa) wrote:

: Why is this so,
:how come you can't get FX or anything like that? On that note, I
:think it's pretty stupid that my friends in Canada get more US
:stations then I do..

The Canajun guvamint censors US tv and has banned outlets such as FX and
Fox News (and Al Jazeera, too, for that matter). Canajun komrads are not
allowed to view these stations, we must watch aptn and learn to love
"Anne On The Green Rez North of the New Moon" (or, if we are
Frakenfones, the truly awful and embarassing "La Petite Poutinerie"),
which presents the true mediocre face of kanajun kultur. Our "networks"
produce nothing of any artistic, cultural or entertainment value, they
merely repackage US programming with (badly produced) Canajun
commercials inserted into our ... THERE IS NO SPIN THAT YOU CAN PUT ON
THIS THAT MAKES IT ANYTHING LESS THAN A FORM OF CENSORSHIP.

<aside>
Did you watch "Wonderfalls?" Did you notice that the pilot was slick and
well-written and imbued with sterling production values? Did you then
notice that the 2nd show was just a typical badly-written,
sloppily-produced and just plain stupid piece of Kanajun krap? Did these
snotty unkultured Toronto producers think that they could fool the
Americans? Who immediately ran the show opposite "CSI" (probably the
most popular show on the air) so that the ratings would disappear and
they could cancel it? Hmmm? Don't mess with the big boys, kanucks!
</aside>

As for your FCC regulations, they're designed to protect your local,
privately-owned network affiliates; we don't really have that kind of
system in Kanada, almost all of our tv stations are directly owned by
our networks, which are mostly directly owned by the Asper family.

A lot of Americans subscribe to Starchoice, through brokers in Canada.
They sell two sets of US networks: east and west. If you live in the
east you can choose between Buffalo and Detroit for the east (Fox
Rochester), and you can pay extra to have either Spokane or Seattle from
the west. These include only the "traditional" networks (CBS, NBC, ABC,
Fox and PBS). If you want the newer players, WB, UPN, and whatever, you
must of course, in true kanajun fascion, pay for them up the wazoo in
diskounted kanajun dollahs.

<confession> Stole the "k" thing form James Ellroy </confession>

[Gary Tait]

Post by Eric Gadfsa
Just curious...Why are only a few US Cable Networks available in
Canada? I've noticed that CNN, CNN Headline News, TBS, Spike TV, A&E,
& BET are pretty much the only ones that are imported directly into
Canada from the US, Stateside commercials and all. Why is this so,
how come you can't get FX or anything like that? On that note, I
think it's pretty stupid that my friends in Canada get more US
stations then I do...Buffalo stations and network affiliates from
Seattle...Echostar tried to get something like that, allow ppl to get
stations from outside their home area, but the FCC shot them down.

Because so much of the programming rights on those US channel is held
by Canadian broadcasters, the precious dial space would be take up by
those channels, and Canadian advertisers would have less spaces to
advertise. Mostly of all, those networks would not be producing many
programs in Canada, with Canadian on and off screen personnele, and
with a Canadian identity.

[qwerty]

"and Canadian advertisers would have less spaces to
advertise"

they can buy ad space on american channels if they want to.

"Mostly of all, those networks would not be producing many
programs in Canada"

simsubbing an american network with a canadian one and pasting a network bug
on the screen is hardly producing something in canada

"and with a Canadian identity"

I am guessing I an a younger generation than you because I view it as more
of an north american identity.

[LithiaSpgs]

Post by qwerty
"and Canadian advertisers would have less spaces to
advertise"
they can buy ad space on american channels if they want to.

Many Canadian advertisers only want Canadians (and maybe a few border rats) to
see their ads. Places like Canadian Tire, Zellers and Tim Horton's have nothing
to sell to Americans because they don't exist here.

[Warren Oates]

In article <***@mb-m24.aol.com>,
***@aol.com (LithiaSpgs) wrote:

:Places like Canadian Tire, Zellers and Tim Horton's have nothing
:to sell to Americans because they don't exist here.

Umm, wrong about Tim Horton's. It's now owned by Wendy's (a US company)
and has a strong presence in the US. They use the same tv ads.

[Patty Winter]

Post by Warren Oates
Umm, wrong about Tim Horton's. It's now owned by Wendy's (a US company)
and has a strong presence in the US. They use the same tv ads.

I wouldn't call it strong. They're only in four states that are near
Canada.


Patty

[LithiaSpgs]

Post by Warren Oates
Umm, wrong about Tim Horton's. It's now owned by Wendy's (a US company)
and has a strong presence in the

They do? Where? I have only ever seen one in the USA (Ohio I think).

[Larry Weil]

Post by LithiaSpgs

Post by Warren Oates
Umm, wrong about Tim Horton's. It's now owned by Wendy's (a US company)
and has a strong presence in the

They do? Where? I have only ever seen one in the USA (Ohio I think).

I know that they hav a few in the Portland, Maine area, and due to a recent
purchase they will soon have a number in Rhode Island and Massachusetts.

--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH

[Tom Morse]

Post by LithiaSpgs
Many Canadian advertisers only want Canadians (and maybe a few border rats) to
see their ads. Places like Canadian Tire, Zellers and Tim Horton's have nothing
to sell to Americans because they don't exist here.

Kev, Tim Horton's has stores in the U.S.

Tom


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[Gary Tait]

Post by qwerty
"and Canadian advertisers would have less spaces to
advertise"
they can buy ad space on american channels if they want to.

True, but it is not cost effective for an exclusively Canadian
compamany to copmete with US advertisers for the spots, for products
and buisnesses that US residents cannot buy.

Post by qwerty
"Mostly of all, those networks would not be producing many
programs in Canada"
simsubbing an american network with a canadian one and pasting a network bug
on the screen is hardly producing something in canada

No, but the Canadian networks do create Canadian programmes.

Post by qwerty
"and with a Canadian identity"
I am guessing I an a younger generation than you because I view it as more
of an north american identity.

[g***@newsfeeds.com]

That true, Gary...Canadian networks do create Canadian programmes but
no Canadian wants to watch them because they rather watch the American
shows. Crooked Liberals are violating our rights to choose whom we
subscribe to (HBO, Fox News and most US stations) and whom we do not
want to subscribe to (APTN, WTN, and most Canadian garbage specialty
channels). Let the market determine which stations get on the air and
which ones do not. If this ever happens then say goodbye to APTN, WTN
and all other stations that need federal gov't subsidy (in other
words, our tax dollars) to stay alive and say hello to HBO, Fox News
and other US stations. We Canadians are old enough to pick the shows
we want to watch and the station we want.

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:07:14 -0400, Gary Tait

Post by Gary Tait

Post by qwerty
"and Canadian advertisers would have less spaces to
advertise"
they can buy ad space on american channels if they want to.

True, but it is not cost effective for an exclusively Canadian
compamany to copmete with US advertisers for the spots, for products
and buisnesses that US residents cannot buy.

Post by qwerty
"Mostly of all, those networks would not be producing many
programs in Canada"
simsubbing an american network with a canadian one and pasting a network bug
on the screen is hardly producing something in canada

No, but the Canadian networks do create Canadian programmes.

Post by qwerty
"and with a Canadian identity"
I am guessing I an a younger generation than you because I view it as more
of an north american identity.

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[Cracker Jack]

whatever... and the FCC in the US tells us what we can see and what we
cannot. We cannot get East Coast Feeds of the networks here on the
West Coast and vice versa. At least you Canadians can watch network
shows from different time zones. Big Brother here in the US still
dictates what we can see.

Post by g***@newsfeeds.com
That true, Gary...Canadian networks do create Canadian programmes but
no Canadian wants to watch them because they rather watch the American
shows. Crooked Liberals are violating our rights to choose whom we
subscribe to (HBO, Fox News and most US stations) and whom we do not
want to subscribe to (APTN, WTN, and most Canadian garbage specialty
channels). Let the market determine which stations get on the air and
which ones do not. If this ever happens then say goodbye to APTN, WTN
and all other stations that need federal gov't subsidy (in other
words, our tax dollars) to stay alive and say hello to HBO, Fox News
and other US stations. We Canadians are old enough to pick the shows
we want to watch and the station we want.
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:07:14 -0400, Gary Tait

Post by Gary Tait

Post by qwerty
"and Canadian advertisers would have less spaces to
advertise"
they can buy ad space on american channels if they want to.

True, but it is not cost effective for an exclusively Canadian
compamany to copmete with US advertisers for the spots, for products
and buisnesses that US residents cannot buy.

Post by qwerty
"Mostly of all, those networks would not be producing many
programs in Canada"
simsubbing an american network with a canadian one and pasting a network bug
on the screen is hardly producing something in canada

No, but the Canadian networks do create Canadian programmes.

Post by qwerty
"and with a Canadian identity"
I am guessing I an a younger generation than you because I view it as more
of an north american identity.

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[Nicholas Fitzpatrick]

Post by Cracker Jack
whatever... and the FCC in the US tells us what we can see and what we
cannot. We cannot get East Coast Feeds of the networks here on the
West Coast and vice versa. At least you Canadians can watch network
shows from different time zones. Big Brother here in the US still
dictates what we can see.

By the end of the summer, the local cable company will be carrying CTV from
6 different time zones (Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central,
Mountain, and Pacific.). Sadly, we only get the big US networks
from 3 locations (Buffalo, Detoit, and Seattle).

Perhaps you will be lucky, and the FCC will become as good as the CRTC!

Nick

[KevinXKitchen]

Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick
By the end of the summer, the local cable company will be carrying CTV from
6 different time zones (Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central,
Mountain, and Pacific.). Sadly, we only get the big US networks
from 3 locations (Buffalo, Detoit, and Seattle).

Where is Detoit at? Is that near Detroit (or DeToilet as I call it?)

[Nicholas Fitzpatrick]

Post by KevinXKitchen

Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick
By the end of the summer, the local cable company will be carrying CTV from
6 different time zones (Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central,
Mountain, and Pacific.). Sadly, we only get the big US networks
from 3 locations (Buffalo, Detoit, and Seattle).

Where is Detoit at? Is that near Detroit (or DeToilet as I call it?)

Last time I checked, spelling flames were considered worse netiquette, than
actually making the mistake in the first place.

Needless to say, I obviously meant to spell it Detroit (funny, it
is normally Bufallo I get wrong :-)

Nick

[KevinXKitchen]

Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick
Last time I checked, spelling flames were considered worse netiquette, than
actually making the mistake in the first place.
Needless to say, I obviously meant to spell it Detroit (funny, it
is normally Bufallo I get wrong :-)

Buffalo is the other armpit of the US of A. We have 2 armpit cities in Detroit
and Buffalo. Places no sane person wants to reside- ever. Kind of funny that
all the separates them is Canada!