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2 questions about buying a US Dish in the US..for Canada
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Jack
2004-02-22 18:18:45 UTC
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1. Will Can Customs still allow the importation of DTV receivers?
2. Do the new receivers have the P4/P5 cards in the box with them

Thanks
LithiaSpgs
2004-02-23 00:10:51 UTC
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Post by Jack
1. Will Can Customs still allow the importation of DTV receivers?
Does the thought of 5 years in prison thrill you? If so, try it!
Jack
2004-02-23 03:00:11 UTC
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for what? possession of dtv IS NOT illegal
Post by LithiaSpgs
Post by Jack
1. Will Can Customs still allow the importation of DTV receivers?
Does the thought of 5 years in prison thrill you? If so, try it!
LithiaSpgs
2004-02-28 14:23:30 UTC
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Post by Jack
for what? possession of dtv IS NOT illegal
I beg to differ. Read the law. It says "possession".
Jack
2004-02-28 17:41:07 UTC
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Post by LithiaSpgs
Post by Jack
for what? possession of dtv IS NOT illegal
I beg to differ. Read the law. It says "possession".
You can "differ" all you want..posession of US Sat gear is NOT illegal, yet.
Reprograming equipment is, i.e. HU loaders, altho only the dealers are being
targeted, so far.
LithiaSpgs
2004-02-28 19:16:56 UTC
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Post by Jack
You can "differ" all you want..posession of US Sat gear is NOT illegal, yet.
Reprograming equipment is, i.e. HU loaders, altho only the dealers are being
targeted, so far.
SEE: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/02/20/Consumers/satellite040220
Gary Tait
2004-02-28 23:02:25 UTC
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Post by Jack
Post by LithiaSpgs
Post by Jack
for what? possession of dtv IS NOT illegal
I beg to differ. Read the law. It says "possession".
You can "differ" all you want..posession of US Sat gear is NOT illegal, yet.
Reprograming equipment is, i.e. HU loaders, altho only the dealers are being
targeted, so far.
Posession is illegal if the equipment is used, or intended to violate
certain clauses in the RCA, namely to decode satellite programming
outside of authorization from lawful providers (which the SC has
determined only SC and ExpressVu are the only lawful providers of
satellite service to Candian individuals).
Juan Hung Lo
2004-02-23 03:06:43 UTC
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Post by LithiaSpgs
Post by Jack
1. Will Can Customs still allow the importation of DTV receivers?
Does the thought of 5 years in prison thrill you? If so, try it!
Bullsh*t, use Global Post and mark the items as Electronic Parts For
Repair.


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making this post has no firsthand knowledge of bypassing
satellite security measures.
Thom E. Illfigure
2004-03-01 03:36:22 UTC
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Guys ..dont panic....
The easiest way if you dont have a US contact, is to go to the US and
purchase the system of your choice.
Take it out of the box....
Turn the box inside-out to hide the commercial logos.
Remove the plastic bag except for the receiver.
Take card out of box.( There are crooks at customs too you know....)
Repack dish and receiver in unmarked box.
Go to the nearest UPS Office after finding a local phony address that you
will remember......
Mail the box to yourself in Canada using a fake name.
Insure the box as usual..
On the Customs forms at UPS destined for the border declare the box as Used
Parts for receiver.
Pre-Pay the shipping charges CASH no credit cards.
99.9 % of the time this has worked fine.
All boxes are sniffed by mechanical and K9 at the border.
Warning - DO not manipulate drugs like Pot or Cocaine prior to handling your
dish system .Dogs will pick up scent and your goose will be cooked.....

So what if something happens you will ask. Hell you dont know shit. Even the
guy who sent it probably a mailing error from UPS. And he wasn't lying on
the declaration.... Those ARE parts for a receiver. The only thing risked is
the money invested in the system . That's it. !!!

Good Luck

TI
Post by LithiaSpgs
Post by Jack
1. Will Can Customs still allow the importation of DTV receivers?
Does the thought of 5 years in prison thrill you? If so, try it!
Nicholas Fitzpatrick
2004-03-01 20:15:37 UTC
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Post by Thom E. Illfigure
Guys ..dont panic....
The easiest way if you dont have a US contact, is to go to the US and
purchase the system of your choice.
Take it out of the box....
Turn the box inside-out to hide the commercial logos.
Remove the plastic bag except for the receiver.
Take card out of box.( There are crooks at customs too you know....)
Repack dish and receiver in unmarked box.
Go to the nearest UPS Office after finding a local phony address that you
will remember......
Mail the box to yourself in Canada using a fake name.
Insure the box as usual..
On the Customs forms at UPS destined for the border declare the box as Used
Parts for receiver.
Pre-Pay the shipping charges CASH no credit cards.
99.9 % of the time this has worked fine.
All boxes are sniffed by mechanical and K9 at the border.
Warning - DO not manipulate drugs like Pot or Cocaine prior to handling your
dish system .Dogs will pick up scent and your goose will be cooked.....
Seems complicated .... why not just find someone in Canada who currently
has a system, go over there a 4 AM one day, and steal it. I could point
you to my neighbour, who has 3 systems sitting on the grass outside
the apartment door to his patio.

It's not like he is going to report the theft of an illegal system, to
the police, is it?

Nick
Warren Oates
2004-03-01 22:29:29 UTC
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In article <404399e9$***@news.sentex.net>,
***@sentex.ca (Nicholas Fitzpatrick) wrote:

:Seems complicated .... why not just find someone in Canada who currently
:has a system, go over there a 4 AM one day, and steal it. I could point
:you to my neighbour, who has 3 systems sitting on the grass outside
:the apartment door to his patio.

Umm. Are you 1: advocating that someone commit burglary? 2: under the
mistaken impression that the dish comprises the whole "system?" 3:
seriously stupid?
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Looks like more of Texas to me.
... Arizona, where the nights are warm and the roads are straight.
Nicholas Fitzpatrick
2004-03-01 23:44:51 UTC
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Post by Warren Oates
:Seems complicated .... why not just find someone in Canada who currently
:has a system, go over there a 4 AM one day, and steal it. I could point
:you to my neighbour, who has 3 systems sitting on the grass outside
:the apartment door to his patio.
Umm. Are you 1: advocating that someone commit burglary? 2: under the
seriously stupid?
Well, if one is already comitting a crime to watch the thing ... so
it doesn't make much difference, does it.

Yeah, I guess you would need the box too ... don't worry, with all the wires
going through the patio door, I'm sure opening the door and grabbing the
box wouldn't be a great challenge.

Nick
LithiaSpgs
2004-03-02 02:30:13 UTC
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick
Seems complicated .... why not just find someone in Canada who currently
has a system, go over there a 4 AM one day, and steal it. I could point
you to my neighbour, who has 3 systems sitting on the grass outside
the apartment door to his patio.
That sounds like something some stupid ass toothless Alabama redneck would do.
"Hey goober, lookie here whut I got". "Got this here little dish from down
yonder, now just screw that other end on the TV Set"
Thom E. Illfigure
2004-03-02 03:03:05 UTC
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.....Lithia...Hell No Gomer..Ima Gonna use it as a Wok for cookin.


LOL

TI
Post by LithiaSpgs
Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick
Seems complicated .... why not just find someone in Canada who currently
has a system, go over there a 4 AM one day, and steal it. I could point
you to my neighbour, who has 3 systems sitting on the grass outside
the apartment door to his patio.
That sounds like something some stupid ass toothless Alabama redneck would do.
"Hey goober, lookie here whut I got". "Got this here little dish from down
yonder, now just screw that other end on the TV Set"
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