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Here's why Prof. Delvin Benet keeps posting all this proof there were no WMD in Iraq...
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AlleyCat
2013-07-09 18:47:49 UTC
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:36:04 -0400, Robert A. Leffingwell says...
"Tell the same idiotic lie enough times and someone is
bound to believe you."
Yes, the lie that there were NO WMD's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Husein#Genocidal_campaign_against_Ku
rds

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%
D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%AD%D9%84%D8%A8%DA%86%D9%87.jpg
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U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained satellite photographs of truck
convoys that were at several weapons sites in Iraq in the weeks before
U.S. military operations were launched, defense officials said
yesterday.

The photographs indicate that Iraq was moving arms and equipment from
its known weapons sites, said officials who spoke on the condition of
anonymity.

According to one official, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency,
known as NGA, "documented the movement of long convoys of trucks from
various areas around Baghdad to the Syrian border."

The official said the convoys are believed to include shipments of
sensitive armaments, including equipment used in making plastic
explosives and nuclear weapons.

About 380 tons of RDX and HMX, used in making such arms, were reported
missing from the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility, though the Pentagon and an
embedded NBC News correspondent said the facility appeared to have been
emptied by the time U.S. forces got there.

The photographs bolster the claims of Pentagon official John A. Shaw,
who told The Washington Times on Wednesday that recent intelligence
reports indicate Russian special forces units took part in a
sophisticated dispersal operation from January 2003 to March 2003 to
move key weapons out of Iraq.

________________________

One of Saddam's generals, General Georges Sada, has come forward with
claims that Saddam moved his "special weapons" out of Iraq, to Syria in
late summer 2002. He allegedly did this under the guise of humanitarian
aid flights to Syria after there was a dam burst in July, and the
shipments were made on modified civilian planes, by pilots Sada knows
personally. On June 17, 2002, the Times of London reported that Iraqi
nuclear centrifuge parts were being smuggled out of Syria-originally
stored at the port of Tartus, they had been moved to Damascus
International Airport and moved to points unknown from there-effectively
corroborating Sada's story. The Time's report even cites the Dam break
as a cover story, and that cover story is part of Georges Sada's claims
as well. In late summer 2002, we know from the Saddam tapes, from
multiple mainstream media interviews with former Iraqi generals, and
from the ISG reports that Saddam stunned his general staff by announcing
to them that he was letting the UN inspectors back in because there were
no longer any "special weapons" in the country.

Other shipments went by truck and storage payment was made to Syria
through an arms smuggling front company run by Syrian Intelligence: SES
International. That it did exist, was A Syrian Intel front company and
was corrupt is not at all in dispute. SES Intl was one of those blatant
Oil-For-Food cover companies used by Saddam to buy conventional weapons
in exchange for UN oil vouchers. The Duelfer Report is ridden with
information about SES International's illegal sales-sales that Saddam
was using to break his conventional arms containment. SES was cited by
the Treasury Department as being a front for Syrian Intelligence, a
sanction-breaking company, and was being used by Syria's family to
launder money. Assad's family has also been caught by the UN using the
collapsed bank of Al Madina as a similar front company involved in the
assassination of Lebanon's former Prime Minister.

________________________

Ha'aretz has revived the mystery surrounding the inability to find
weapons of mass destruction stockpiles in Iraq, the most commonly cited
justification for Operation Iraqi Freedom and one of the most
embarrassing episodes for the United States. Satellite photos of a
suspicious site in Syria are providing new support for the reporting of
a Syrian journalist who briefly rocked the world with his reporting that
Iraq's WMD had been sent to three sites in Syria just before the
invasion commenced.
The newspaper reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern
Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western
intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in
January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations
and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the
reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said
in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein's WMDs were in
Syria.

One of the three specific sites he mentioned was an underground base
underneath Al-Baida, which is one kilometer south of Masyaf. This is a
perfect match. The suspicious features in the photos and the fact that a
Western intelligence agency is so interested in the site support
Nayouf's reporting, showing that his sources in Syria did indeed have
access to specific information about secret activity that is likely
WMD-related. Richard Radcliffe, one of my co-writers at
WorldThreats.com, noticed that Masyaf is located on a road that goes
from Hamah, where there is an airfield sufficient to handle relatively
large aircraft, into Lebanon and the western side of the Bekaa Valley,
another location said to house Iraqi weapons.

...

General Tommy Franks and General Michael DeLong, the top two officials
in CENTCOM when the invasion began, have spoken of credible intelligence
supporting the theory. General James Clapper, President Obama's pick to
replace Dennis Blair as director of national intelligence, has
previously stated his belief that the weapons went to Syria and took
part in the meetings organized by Shaw.

________________________

The controversial intelligence web site, Debka, is reporting that in
mid-February, "Chemical Ali," the cousin of Saddam Hussein who launched
the chemical attack on Iraqi Kurds, went to Damascus to work out the
arrangements for Iraqi officials and weapons to go to Syria. Military
technicians disguised as Syrian soldiers were reportedly sent to take
part in the transfer, and the Syrian engineering corps also dug holes to
bury Iraqi al-Hussein medium-range ballistic missiles.

Everyone has an opinion on Debka. To some it's just speculation and lies
meant to make money and spread a pro-Israel agenda; to others its an
actual front for Israeli disinformation; to others, its a remarkably
accurate service that is required reading for every analyst.

United Press International on February 6, 2003 reported the following:

"Some U.S. intelligence agencies believe that rogue elements of Syria's
ruling elite have accepted millions of dollars in bribes in return for
providing a safe haven for some of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction,
according to former and serving U.S. officials.

Chemical and biological weapons were taken by truck to a Syrian
munitions compound near a military base near Khan Abu Shamet, about 50
miles northeast of Damascus, these officials told United Press
International."
unknown
2013-07-12 14:12:23 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:36:04 -0400, Robert A. Leffingwell says...
"Tell the same idiotic lie enough times and someone is
bound to believe you."
Yes, the lie that there were NO WMD's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Husein#Genocidal_campaign_against_Ku
rds
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%
D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%AD%D9%84%D8%A8%DA%86%D9%87.jpg
________________________________________________________________________
U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained satellite photographs of truck
convoys that were at several weapons sites in Iraq in the weeks before
U.S. military operations were launched, defense officials said
yesterday.
The photographs indicate that Iraq was moving arms and equipment from
its known weapons sites, said officials who spoke on the condition of
anonymity.
According to one official, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency,
known as NGA, "documented the movement of long convoys of trucks from
various areas around Baghdad to the Syrian border."
The official said the convoys are believed to include shipments of
sensitive armaments, including equipment used in making plastic
explosives and nuclear weapons.
About 380 tons of RDX and HMX, used in making such arms, were reported
missing from the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility, though the Pentagon and an
embedded NBC News correspondent said the facility appeared to have been
emptied by the time U.S. forces got there.
The photographs bolster the claims of Pentagon official John A. Shaw,
who told The Washington Times on Wednesday that recent intelligence
reports indicate Russian special forces units took part in a
sophisticated dispersal operation from January 2003 to March 2003 to
move key weapons out of Iraq.
________________________
One of Saddam's generals, General Georges Sada, has come forward with
claims that Saddam moved his "special weapons" out of Iraq, to Syria in
late summer 2002. He allegedly did this under the guise of humanitarian
aid flights to Syria after there was a dam burst in July, and the
shipments were made on modified civilian planes, by pilots Sada knows
personally. On June 17, 2002, the Times of London reported that Iraqi
nuclear centrifuge parts were being smuggled out of Syria-originally
stored at the port of Tartus, they had been moved to Damascus
International Airport and moved to points unknown from there-effectively
corroborating Sada's story. The Time's report even cites the Dam break
as a cover story, and that cover story is part of Georges Sada's claims
as well. In late summer 2002, we know from the Saddam tapes, from
multiple mainstream media interviews with former Iraqi generals, and
from the ISG reports that Saddam stunned his general staff by announcing
to them that he was letting the UN inspectors back in because there were
no longer any "special weapons" in the country.
Other shipments went by truck and storage payment was made to Syria
through an arms smuggling front company run by Syrian Intelligence: SES
International. That it did exist, was A Syrian Intel front company and
was corrupt is not at all in dispute. SES Intl was one of those blatant
Oil-For-Food cover companies used by Saddam to buy conventional weapons
in exchange for UN oil vouchers. The Duelfer Report is ridden with
information about SES International's illegal sales-sales that Saddam
was using to break his conventional arms containment. SES was cited by
the Treasury Department as being a front for Syrian Intelligence, a
sanction-breaking company, and was being used by Syria's family to
launder money. Assad's family has also been caught by the UN using the
collapsed bank of Al Madina as a similar front company involved in the
assassination of Lebanon's former Prime Minister.
________________________
Ha'aretz has revived the mystery surrounding the inability to find
weapons of mass destruction stockpiles in Iraq, the most commonly cited
justification for Operation Iraqi Freedom and one of the most
embarrassing episodes for the United States. Satellite photos of a
suspicious site in Syria are providing new support for the reporting of
a Syrian journalist who briefly rocked the world with his reporting that
Iraq's WMD had been sent to three sites in Syria just before the
invasion commenced.
The newspaper reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern
Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western
intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in
January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations
and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the
reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said
in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein's WMDs were in
Syria.
One of the three specific sites he mentioned was an underground base
underneath Al-Baida, which is one kilometer south of Masyaf. This is a
perfect match. The suspicious features in the photos and the fact that a
Western intelligence agency is so interested in the site support
Nayouf's reporting, showing that his sources in Syria did indeed have
access to specific information about secret activity that is likely
WMD-related. Richard Radcliffe, one of my co-writers at
WorldThreats.com, noticed that Masyaf is located on a road that goes
from Hamah, where there is an airfield sufficient to handle relatively
large aircraft, into Lebanon and the western side of the Bekaa Valley,
another location said to house Iraqi weapons.
...
General Tommy Franks and General Michael DeLong, the top two officials
in CENTCOM when the invasion began, have spoken of credible intelligence
supporting the theory. General James Clapper, President Obama's pick to
replace Dennis Blair as director of national intelligence, has
previously stated his belief that the weapons went to Syria and took
part in the meetings organized by Shaw.
________________________
The controversial intelligence web site, Debka, is reporting that in
mid-February, "Chemical Ali," the cousin of Saddam Hussein who launched
the chemical attack on Iraqi Kurds, went to Damascus to work out the
arrangements for Iraqi officials and weapons to go to Syria. Military
technicians disguised as Syrian soldiers were reportedly sent to take
part in the transfer, and the Syrian engineering corps also dug holes to
bury Iraqi al-Hussein medium-range ballistic missiles.
Everyone has an opinion on Debka. To some it's just speculation and lies
meant to make money and spread a pro-Israel agenda; to others its an
actual front for Israeli disinformation; to others, its a remarkably
accurate service that is required reading for every analyst.
"Some U.S. intelligence agencies believe that rogue elements of Syria's
ruling elite have accepted millions of dollars in bribes in return for
providing a safe haven for some of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction,
according to former and serving U.S. officials.
Chemical and biological weapons were taken by truck to a Syrian
munitions compound near a military base near Khan Abu Shamet, about 50
miles northeast of Damascus, these officials told United Press
International."
CHECKMATE to Saddamn supporters and Uday and Qusay's boy friends
Y***@Jurgis.net
2013-07-12 23:33:18 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
"Some U.S. intelligence agencies believe
BELIEVE??? That's not proof of anything you dumb fuckwit
Post by unknown
Post by AlleyCat
these officials told United Press
International."
HEARSAY is not evidence of anything you dumb asshole
Post by unknown
CHECKMATE to Saddamn supporters and Uday and Qusay's boy friends
There were NO WMD of ANY kind that Bush/Cheney et al, claimed in Iraq
that HE used to lie us into war.

We KNEW there were none because from Dec 2002 to Mar 2003 UN
inspectors scoured Iraq and could not find any.

NONE (that weren't accounted for)

IDIOT
AlleyCat
2013-07-13 01:22:45 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
There were NO WMD of ANY kind
Liar.


Saturday, July 13, 2013
Iran
Iran: 'Forgotten Victims' Of Saddam Hussein Era Await Justice

Omran Gangdost was 2 when he lost seven family members in the gas attack
on Sardasht. He constantly requires his own oxygen supply

PRAGUE, December 1, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- The head of a center for Iran's
disabled war veterans announced on November 26 that Iraq's former
Ba'athist regime used chemical weapons against civilians and soldiers
some 300 times.

Still suffering the long-term effects of chemical agents, many of the
100,000 Iranian survivors of Iraqi gas attacks continue to seek justice
as they follow the trial of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
Y***@Jurgis.net
2013-07-13 02:46:37 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
There were NO WMD of ANY kind
Dumbya Bush laid out a litany of "slam-dunk", absolute truth list of
saddam's weaponry leading up to the invasion in March 2003

NONE of it was true.

We knew it was not true----UNSCOM had been allowed into Iraq and NO
EVIDENCE supported Bush's claims

ALL "known" WMD were accounted for, (Some bunkers under UN guard were
all accounted for)

By May 2003----We found exactly NONE---that bush claimed.

IDIOT
AlleyCat
2013-07-13 03:11:32 UTC
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Post by Y***@Jurgis.net
Dumbya Bush laid out a litany of "slam-dunk", absolute truth list of
saddam's weaponry leading up to the invasion in March 2003
Liar.

Genocidal campaign against Kurds

Main article: Al-Anfal Campaign

Halabja poison gas attack

The Al-Anfal Campaign was a genocidal campaign against the Kurdish
people (and many others) in Iraqi Kurdistan led by the Iraqi government
of Saddam Hussein and headed by Ali Hassan al-Majid. The campaign takes
its name from Surat al-Anfal in the Qur'an, which was used as a code
name by the former Iraqi Ba'athist administration for a series of
attacks against the peshmerga rebels and the mostly Kurdish civilian
population of rural Northern Iraq, conducted between 1986 and 1989
culminating in 1988. This campaign also targeted Shabaks and Yazidis,
Assyrians, Turkoman people and Mandeans and many villages belonging to
these ethnic groups were also destroyed. Human Rights Watch estimates
that between 50,000 and 100,000 people were killed. Some Kurdish sources
put the number higher, estimating 182,000 Kurds were killed.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%
D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%AD%D9%84%D8%A8%DA%86%D9%87.jpg

On 16 March 1988, the Kurdish town of Halabja was attacked with a mix of
mustard gas and nerve agents, killing 5,000 civilians, and maiming,
disfiguring, or seriously debilitating 10,000 more. (see Halabja poison
gas attack)

AlleyCat
2013-07-13 02:24:20 UTC
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SpamClusterFuck says...


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AND KEEP YOUR NERDY SHIT OUT OF AMERICAN POLITICS NEWSGROUPS,
ASSHOLE

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You must be one big nerd to take time out to tell others what to do. No
strip Dungeons and Dragons with your gay cohorts up there tonight?

Well, fuck you, wimp. I'll post anywhere and anything I want to
Cuntknuckle groups. Piss off, eh.
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